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Willtell
10:42 Wed Apr 8
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Coffee 7:58 Wed Apr 8
I'm not so sure Nicey is so far off the mark with his comments. How else other than favouritism for his agent's (Mark Curtis) clients.
Ravel Morrison and several other WH players were enrolled by Curtis after SA became manager. Ravel went public and it was denied much like all of SA's corruption charges.
Jarvis happens to have Mark Curtis as an agent and so out of the blue he gets to suddenly start playing again while really skilful players like Ravel and Zarate have moved on. Yes Ravel and Zarate are probably emotional types that need careful handling. SA's brusque manner would never work with them but they are far more skilled than most and actually made a difference to games yet always got side-lined.
It seems to me that SA is a bully that only respects those that keep following his orders to the letter and always accept whatever he hands out. This is why he rarely makes the expected substitutions imo. He is thinking if they do well it shows up his team selection and he will have to keep them playing as Managers' rules dictate that if you come on and do well you get another chance. Best not bring on someone that might keep Kev out....
That's why even good youngsters don't play and why some players break ranks and complain about his ignoring them etc and others back him to the hilt. It's the way bullying dictators work...
I hope we get a proper manager that will work with all members of the squad soon...
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Eddie B
9:50 Wed Apr 8
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BFS' biggest mistake this season (he's had a few, mind), was moving Downing out of the tip of the diamond back to the right, to accomodate Nolan back in his 'preferred' position.
"He'll always pop up and score a goal for you" ® - One goal in 27 appearences this season.
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ludo21
8:11 Wed Apr 8
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Nicey 7.56
BFS actually went as far as saying in his programme notes a few games back that he hoped Jarvis would get some game time to put him in the shop window.... though in reality playing him and Nolan is surely reducing any likely fee we could get!
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Coffee
8:07 Wed Apr 8
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He has a choice.
Nice or, er, Gary Baldy? Or just old Jaffa Cake?
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Ronald_antly
8:05 Wed Apr 8
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Nicey takes the biscuit, Coffee.
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Coffee
7:58 Wed Apr 8
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You really have a distorted mind.
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Nicey
7:56 Wed Apr 8
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The answer is simple
Look at the inclusion of Jarvis recently
BFS knows his days are numbered so until he goes all of his friends players will get game time to a) get appearance fees and b) get in the shop window
It isn't about West Ham
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Ronald_antly
7:45 Wed Apr 8
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Sir Alf
An interesting post, but with respect, sir;
"Last season up to Feb, the voices questioning his inclusion grew signifcantlly until he got off teh hook with a 4 game run of wins in Feb where he contributed with the lions share of goals."
So he saved us from relegation, then?
"This season, 2 years older ......."
How could he be two years older since the previous season?
"I do see that recently the subs have not exactly made a case for inclusion either but that may be a motivational thing knowing that however they play, Nolan will get a starting berth."
You appear to be suggesting that these subs (some of whom many on here seem to believe will be outstanding if given the chance) are demonstrating a complete lack of professionalism.
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Texas Iron
6:56 Wed Apr 8
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Sir Alf 6:29 Tue Apr 7
Good analysis & recommendations...
You should email to Sullivan...
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Sir Alf
6:29 Tue Apr 7
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The Nolan discussion started the year we came back into the Premiership if I recall correctly. Even then he was on the periphery of the game, struggled with the pace of the Premiership and speed of movement etc. A few questioned his selection then in terms of overall contribution but on balance it was felt he was worth his place due to the relationship with Carroll and his goals from the knock downs or 2nd phase of play or whatever they call it thesedays.
Last season up to Feb, the voices questioning his inclusion grew signifcantlly until he got off teh hook with a 4 game run of wins in Feb where he contributed with the lions share of goals.
This season, 2 years older and approaching 33, and a player who was never an athlete or blessed with high technical ability, its no surprise that he is now unable to compete at the highest level on a consistent basis. Most players, even those with more technique and pace get found out in the modern Premiership at the age of 32 / 33. Without goals he offers little now except some talking and encouragement but even that is not so evident these days. He knows the end of the road is nigh for him as a top player but to his credit he has been giving 100% and sometimes a bit more in most recent games and since Xmas. But its simply not enough. I will never critisize him because he does give everything and still is c0mmitted.
Its been said a thousand times, its Allardyce that has lacked the emotional fortitude to drop him from the first 11.
I do see that recently the subs have not exactly made a case for inclusion either but that may be a motivational thing knowing that however they play, Nolan will get a starting berth. He is BFS's trusty old steed but like any old horse, there comes the day when he has to be put out to pasture or shot and sent to the glue factory. That day came at the start of this season.
I bore on about the need for 3 quality midfield additions, maybe 4 if Song does not join. And 2 or 3 in other positions too. If we could get real quality in the middle. A more disciplined, mobile and combative defensive midfielder, a creative playmaker in the mould of Coutinou, Corzorla or Bojan of Stoke even and another winger for the right and left into the squad. But we have to go for quality rather than quantity.
Everything hinges on Tony Henry and Sullivan. It would help if we had a manager that would work with them and play the acquisitions (Zarate a case in point) but if we get real quality, he (BFS) will have little choice.
Simply put, Nolan should be a bench player for the last season of his contract, and IMHO we should get rid of as many as possible from Jarvis, Demel, CFC, Nene (who will go anyway), Potts and Jussi. I am also assuming that Zarate and Maiga will not feature and go onloan next season unless a new manager comes in.
When you look at our squad, it is very light in terms of quality. We can put out a decent 11 when everyone is fit but that never happens and so we need the depth. We need 6 or 7 of which 3 need to be high quality midfield additions. Noble bless him will be another that has to get used to squad rotation if we are too progress.
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Eerie Descent
6:26 Tue Apr 7
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But by definition it matters, Russ, because Nolan got back in the team whilst playing shit. The Everton FA Cup game away was theworst performance I've seen in the shirt. He HAS to be discussed regarding this point, it's fucking about him directly.
And again, I'll put to you, Zarate came on and changed several games, scored goals, couldn't get in the team. Amalfitano has been called super sub, as he has come on and done well. Nolan has done Fuck all, all season, yet starts as often as fat head can get him in.
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Russ of the BML
6:19 Tue Apr 7
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Eerie Descent 4:29 Tue Apr 7
Accepted. But we are all educated enough to digress from specific points within a thread to in-directly attached points aren't we?
It is about Nolan and my comment is actually about the 'Nolan' theme. Just not directly about HIM. My point is in-directly related to Nolan but more specific directed to and about the players coming on for him as subs.
And that is that I do not believe them to be doing enough to pressure Sam into picking them for the starting line up next time. Whether he would after they played a blinder is a different matter. But there would be more pressure.
But you knew all that anyway.
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riosleftsock
5:38 Tue Apr 7
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Thread seems to be turning into another Steve P SAGA.
Stinks of piss.
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Steve P
5:28 Tue Apr 7
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Spanning 40 years. Good luck with that son!
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Northern Sold
5:28 Tue Apr 7
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Playing what P son?? Gooseberry?? You absolute SAP... I'm gonna stick a compilation of all of Carlton'the Legend' goals on Youtube tonight.... all 69 (SIXTY NINE) of them....
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riosleftsock
5:27 Tue Apr 7
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So is the question, "why did Nolan start up front?" or "why did Nolan start?"
Seems to be the latter.
I'd suggest he started because his recent performances were pretty good (better than Noble's for example).
He didn't have a good game against Leicester (neither did Noble). I wonder which, if any, will be dropped, bearing in mind that Morgan has only seemed to put in a decent shift when coming on as a sub.
To be honest, the whole team looked under par (barring Kouyate) against Leicester.
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Eerie Descent
5:08 Tue Apr 7
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*Swings one in for P*
Watch the knee catching Sold0's head when you go up for it, P?
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Hammer and Pickle
5:06 Tue Apr 7
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Any question that Nolan is keeping anyone, let alone Amaltifano, out of the side on merit is clearly absurd.
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Steve P
5:03 Tue Apr 7
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What, eight years ago?
Fuck me, I was still playing eight years ago.
On me head, son
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Eerie Descent
5:03 Tue Apr 7
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Oh yeah, the good old days, better than that shit we served up in the 80's.
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JustAFatKevinDavies
5:02 Tue Apr 7
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Carlton has 4 eggs in him omm, minimum.
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